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Post by Old Badger on Jun 12, 2018 21:29:23 GMT -5
Hard to avoid the irony of a narrow supreme court ruling that will effectively denying voting out of a unsubstantiated concerns of voter fraud while, at the same time, the executive branch avoids doing anything about protecting the elections themselves. That's a pretty selective concern for election integrity there...
Yes, but they both lead to the same result, so they're not inconsistent, alas.
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 17, 2018 9:05:05 GMT -5
"One day in late May 2016, Roger Stone — the political dark sorcerer and longtime confidant of Donald Trump — slipped into his Jaguar and headed out to meet a man with a Make America Great Again hat and a viscous Russian accent. The man, who called himself Henry Greenberg, offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton, Trump’s presumptive Democratic opponent in the upcoming presidential election, according to Stone who spoke about the previously unreported incident in interviews with The Washington Post. Greenberg, who did not reveal the information he claimed to possess, wanted Trump to pay $2 million for the political dirt, Stone said. 'You don’t understand Donald Trump,' Stone recalled saying before rejecting the offer at a restaurant in the Russian-expat magnet of Sunny Isles, Fla. 'He doesn’t pay for anything.' Later, Stone got a text message from Michael Caputo, a Trump campaign communications official who’d arranged the meeting after Greenberg had approached Caputo’s Russian-immigrant business partner... "Stone and Caputo’s interactions with Greenberg mean that at least 11 Trump associates or campaign officials have acknowledged interactions with a Russian during the election season or presidential transition. Those interactions have become public in the year and a half since a Trump spokeswoman said that no one associated with the campaign had communications with Russians or other foreign entities." linkNo, we didn't meet with Russians at all...well, maybe inadvertently...or socially...or possibly briefly to discuss adoptions...could have mentioned the campaign...or mined for dirt on our opponent...or maybe...??? Just how far does this story go before it becomes "collusion"?
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 17, 2018 14:41:54 GMT -5
On Friday, Rudy Giuliani dangled the possibility of pardons to Manafort, Cohen, etc. This is tip-toeing to the edge of criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice. Rudy knows better. He's a traitor to his own career.
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 23, 2018 22:16:03 GMT -5
Mueller's building up for something: "New lawyer for the government in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russian troll farm case: Heather Alpino, who comes from DOJ's National Security Division. Oh, and Mueller's office just filed another notice of appearance for three more DOJ lawyers who will be repping the government in the Russian troll farm case. I've asked the special counsel's office for more info, will update if I hear back. One thing worth noting is that these lawyers are not being described as members of the special counsel's office — they could be working with Mueller's office from their respective offices. Special counsel's office spox has declined to comment on what's going on. One possibility is this case could eventually be spun-off to non-special counsel lawyers, similar to how Mueller's office referred info about Michael Cohen to SDNY." link
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 25, 2018 17:46:49 GMT -5
"Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., told more than 100 people at a Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee event that they should 'buckle up' for more revelations in the Russia investigation in the coming months, boastfully joking that there was information only known to himself and and special counsel Robert Mueller...'If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months,' Warner added." www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buckle-up-robert-mueller-russia-revelations-senate-democrat-mark-warner-saysOh, Mark, quit teasing us! Damn, I probably won't be able to sleep tonight. Can't wait for the news to come out.
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Post by badgerjon66 on Jun 28, 2018 12:40:19 GMT -5
Just speculation, but given the news yesterday that after a year doing little or nothing, Mueller is now focusing in on Trump:Russia collusion, maybe he has an anonymous source saying one of 27 Melania's lunch guests (8 years ago) was an American citizen born in Russia.
Or maybe it is nothing that significant.
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 28, 2018 12:45:02 GMT -5
Just speculation, but given the news yesterday that after a year doing little or nothing, Mueller is now focusing in on Trump:Russia collusion, maybe he has an anonymous source saying one of 27 Melania's lunch guests (8 years ago) was an American citizen born in Russia. Or maybe it is nothing that significant. Too much of your life is being wasted on Fox News, jon.
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 28, 2018 13:01:38 GMT -5
This is hilarious: Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) is Republicans' designated pit bull on the House Judiciary Committee. He's the guy pushing conspiracy theories about the FBI and President Trump. And he's the guy whose push for a second special counsel based on these theories earned a sharp rebuke from Attorney General Jeff Sessions. And on Thursday, Jordan again found himself getting shut down by one of the embattled leaders of the Justice Department — this time in somewhat embarrassing fashion... He turned to media reports about an alleged threat by Rosenstein to members of Congress. Fox News's Catherine Herridge reported June 12 that Rosenstein had threatened to " 'subpoena' emails, phone records and other documents from lawmakers and staff on” the GOP-controlled House Intelligence Committee. That's the committee led by Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) that has been doing Trump's bidding in a way that its Senate counterpart simply hasn't, including releasing the “Nunes memo.” Other conservative outlets have run with the claim, but outlets such as CNN and even Sessions have said it didn't happen... After Rosenstein rebuked Jordan's use of anonymous media reports, Jordan read from a quote that one anonymous House committee staffer gave to Fox. “This is what they said: 'Having the nation's No. 1 law enforcement officer threaten to subpoena your calls and emails is downright chilling,' " Jordan said. “Did you threaten to subpoena their calls and emails? “No sir, and there's no way to subpoena phone calls,” Rosenstein said, clearly pleased with himself. There were audible laughs in the room. Jordan stumbled for what to say next — “Well, I mean, I'm reading what the press said” — before pressing Rosenstein on what he said. Rosenstein flatly denied that he'd ever said it and noted that he was under oath. He challenged the sources who claim he threatened people to also say so under oath. link
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 28, 2018 15:41:22 GMT -5
"Jordan is the perfect incarnation of the GOP in 2018 — unhinged, bullying, unbound by facts and unconcerned with the norms of democratic government." - Jennifer Rubin
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Post by Old Badger on Jun 28, 2018 21:50:48 GMT -5
This a Member of the House doing his job the right way:
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Post by badgerjon66 on Jul 3, 2018 8:10:19 GMT -5
tick tick tick..... the swamp is strong and will never give up but little by little it is being exposed, though little of that is known to those who blindly refuse to look at information outside the dem/left propaganda outlets.
For example, the Mueller witch hunters have been ordered to appear before a judge with a history of intolerance for prosecutorial misconduct (see Stevens case). Several outcomes are possible, including sat-aside of coerced Flynn guilty plea, dismissal of charges, revelation of 302 falsification, and even referral of sleazy political hacks for ethics training and/or bar sanction.
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Pretty big deal in a witch hunt that has not actually shown up in court (and keeps dodging that) in over a year----except with a crony judge (Contreras) who was recused, apparently not by himself as ha been reported. Yet not important enough for WP to report, unless buried somewhere on back pages.
So, OB, where is the evidence of any Trump:Russia crime? Your thugs have been trying to make up some for two years now and all we see is a mountain of evidence of Clinton:foreign criminal election fraud the the FBI has heroically hidden and obvious prosecutorial abuse of power.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 3, 2018 10:28:33 GMT -5
Several outcomes are possible, including sat-aside of coerced Flynn guilty plea, dismissal of charges, revelation of 302 falsification, and even referral of sleazy political hacks for ethics training and/or bar sanction.. LOL! You're pinning your hopes on a "status hearing"? I hate to break the bad news, but here's how Politico (no lefty journal, that) is reporting this story "A pair of legal filings suggesting that special counsel Robert Mueller's office is almost-but-not-quite ready to set a sentencing date for former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn have prompted a federal judge to order Flynn and lawyers for both sides to make an unexpected trip to court next week. The hearing set for next Tuesday would be the first court appearance for Flynn since last December, when the former Defense Intelligence Agency chief appeared in a packed courtroom to plead guilty to one felony count of making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S., about his lobbying during the presidential transition on a United Nations resolution critical of Israel, and about his lobbying work favorable to the Turkish government." linkAs usual, jon, your "news" sources are leading you down a rabbit hole of fantasy, the endpoint of which will be disappointment.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 5, 2018 9:55:18 GMT -5
Just before Independence Day the Senate Intelligence Committee released its report on Russia and the 2016 election. It's yet another blow to the Trumpist propaganda from the WH, Fox News, and the House Intelligence Committee under Nut-case Nunes: "A Senate panel investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election released Tuesday a written summary of its determination that the U.S. intelligence community correctly concluded Moscow sought to help Donald Trump win. The Senate Intelligence Committee’s report affirms conclusions that its members first announced in May. It stands in sharp contrast with a parallel investigation by the House Intelligence Committee, whose Republican members questioned the intelligence community’s tradecraft in concluding the Kremlin aimed to help Trump. "The Senate panel called the overall assessment a 'sound intelligence product,' saying evidence presented by the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency supported their collective conclusion that the Russian government had 'developed a clear preference for Trump' over his opponent in the race, Hillary Clinton. Where the agencies disagreed, the Senate panel found those differences were 'reasonable.' The intelligence community determined that the Kremlin intended to 'denigrate' and 'harm' Clinton, and 'undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process' while helping Trump. The committee’s report backs that conclusion. It also supports the agencies’ findings about Russia’s tactics, which included cyberattacks and intelligence collection 'against the U.S. primary campaigns, think tanks, and lobbying groups they viewed as likely to shape future U.S. policies.'... "But the panel stressed that intelligence analysts were under 'no politically motivated pressure to reach any conclusions,' and that their conclusions had been prescient as well as accurate, noting that 'the Committee’s investigation has exposed a far more extensive Russian effort to manipulate social media outlets to sow discord and to interfere in the 2016 election and American society' than the officials who drafted the assessment realized at the time they were writing it. linkBasically, what everyone with an operating cerebral cortex has been saying for two years, while brain-dead Republicans have been mouthing the lines Putin's been channeling through Trump.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 9, 2018 18:01:45 GMT -5
Remember when O. J. Simpson published that book If I Did It? Well, it appears that a couple of Trump's best-known lawyers are emulating the former star running-back, only going him one better: they're doing it before the indictment: "Giuliani again moved the goal posts on Trump's previous Stormy Daniels-related assurances. While Trump's team has assured us — repeatedly — Trump had no knowledge of Michael Cohen's payment beforehand, Giuliani would only say that is the case 'as far as I know.' He then added a curious justification for if Trump did know beforehand. 'Even if he had, that would not necessarily be anything,' Giuliani said on ABC News. 'That's something you settle because you don't want your family to be embarrassed.'... "In another portion of the interview, Giuliani appeared to confirm Trump had asked then-FBI Director James B. Comey to back off Michael Flynn — which Comey has alleged but Trump has denied in no uncertain terms. Here's the exchange: GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How is [Comey] a good witness for the president if — if he’s saying that the president was asking him — directing him, in his words, to let the Michael Flynn investigation go? GIULIANI: He didn’t direct him to do that. What he said to him was, 'Can you — can you --'" link
And on that same show, Dershowitz made this astounding statement: “You cannot question a president's motives when the president acts. If a president pardons, that's it. If a president fires, that's it. You can't go beyond an act and get into his motive or into his intent.” LOL! Just last week Dershowitz claimed that people on Martha's Vinyard not inviting him to their soirees was "McCarthyism". I guess next week he'll be claiming that rational people deriding him for this bit of Nixonism will be guilty of a new Holocaust. With friends like these Trump really doesn't need enemies.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 10, 2018 17:05:16 GMT -5
tick tick tick..... the swamp is strong and will never give up but little by little it is being exposed, though little of that is known to those who blindly refuse to look at information outside the dem/left propaganda outlets. For example, the Mueller witch hunters have been ordered to appear before a judge with a history of intolerance for prosecutorial misconduct (see Stevens case). Several outcomes are possible, including sat-aside of coerced Flynn guilty plea, dismissal of charges, revelation of 302 falsification, and even referral of sleazy political hacks for ethics training and/or bar sanction. Remember this post from a week ago? Well, here's the follow-up: "In Michael Flynn’s first appearance in federal court since pleading guilty seven months ago, his lawyers confirmed that he continues to work with the government and is eager to be sentenced and wrap up his case. But it was no clearer after Tuesday’s hearing when President Trump’s former national security adviser’s federal case will conclude. "Flynn’s presence in court in Washington served to puncture ongoing speculation by conservative media that Flynn’s prosecution is falling apart and that the retired Army lieutenant general may withdraw his guilty plea in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe...At Tuesday’s hearing, Flynn attorney Robert K. Kelner told the judge his cooperation agreement with prosecutors remains in effect. 'General Flynn is eager to proceed [to sentencing] when it is possible. With the cooperation agreement, it really is up to the government to make that determination,' Kelner said... Flynn did not speak at Tuesday’s hearing, and his lawyers filed nothing in advance to suggest that he has had any second thoughts about his plea or raised concerns before U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the District." link
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 11, 2018 17:22:49 GMT -5
So, last week Paul Manfort's lawyers went into the federal court here in Alexandria to complain on behalf of their client that his incarceration at the Northern Neck Correctional Facility about 100 miles away was impeding his ability to prepare his own defense. The judge therefore ordered him returned to Alexandria to be held in the local jail. At that point the lawyers said that he didn't want that, either; he just wanted his trial delayed because of the inconvenience. The judge was not amused: “It is surprising and confusing when counsel identifies a problem and then opposes the most logical solution to that problem. The dissonance between defendant’s motion to continue and motion opposing transfer to the Alexandria Detention Center cannot easily be explained or resolved.” linkThe prosecutors actually did offer an explanation, however: "Prosecutors said in a court filing Wednesday that Manafort has told people he is being treated like a “VIP” in the Northern Neck jail, where he has his own phone and computer, writes emails and does not have to wear a uniform. Moreover, attorneys for Robert S. Mueller III’s special counsel probe say Manafort wants the trial delayed only for strategic reasons. In a recent phone call they say he explained in vague terms why he wanted to go to trial first in D.C. federal court, where he faces related charges in a trial set for September. 'Think about how it’ll play elsewhere,' Manafort said, according to the court filing. 'There is a strategy to it, even in failure, but there’s a hope in it.' In recent phone calls, they say Manafort also has said he has 'all my files like I would at home,' has 'gone through all the discovery now,' and is being treated like a 'VIP.'” Basically, that vitiates the claim that he's too far away to participate in his defense. And I'm not sure I'd be willing to tick off a judge while trying to get him to move the case to a distant venue and/or delay it. As it stands now, if the judge does neither of those things the trial will start a short distance from where I'm writing 14 days from today. I may have to see if there are any passes!
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 12, 2018 10:26:38 GMT -5
FBI agent Peter Strzok, an expert on counter-espionage, testifying before a House committee this morning: “Let me be clear, unequivocally and under oath: not once in my 26 years of defending my nation did my personal opinions impact any official action I took...I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity. I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.” linkBravisssimo! It's about time someone called out Gowdy and the other Putinists in the House for their shameful efforts to divide Americans while promoting the interests of a hostile foreign power.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 12, 2018 14:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by buckybasser on Jul 12, 2018 19:04:28 GMT -5
The creep's texts prove otherwise. Where is his lover? Oh right - ignoring subpoenas? Is she soon to be pleading the 5th?
A hoax to fix an election & cause a silent political coup with liberal weirdos who cannot believe that everyone outside of CA, NY, NJ, IL & the D.C. Beltway disagrees with them...
These leftist big city communes are not representative of the nation - all there is to it for thinking people.
Just watch the mid-terms Professor. The biggest political failure in U.S. history is coming your way.
Time to shut it down.
>O
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 12, 2018 20:42:42 GMT -5
The creep's texts prove otherwise. Where is his lover? Oh right - ignoring subpoenas? Is she soon to be pleading the 5th? No, they don't. Quit playing The Idiot. The guy in the WH has that role.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 13, 2018 11:37:35 GMT -5
Latest news from the Collusion-Free Zone: "A dozen Russian intelligence officers have been charged with conspiring to hack Democrats during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to a new indictment in the probe led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. The 12 were members of Russian military intelligence, known as the GRU, and are accused of engaging in a sustained effort to hack the computer networks of Democratic organizations and the Hillary Clinton campaign. Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein detailed the new charges at a mid-day press conference. Mueller, as has been his practice, did not attend the announcement. Court records show a grand jury Mueller has been using returned an indictment Friday morning." linkAnnounced just in time for Trump to ask Putin about it in Helsinki. Yeah, right.
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Post by goldenbucky on Jul 13, 2018 11:53:44 GMT -5
"A dozen Russian intelligence officers have been charged with conspiring to hack Democrats during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to a new indictment in the probe led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. The 12 were members of Russian military intelligence, known as the GRU, and are accused of engaging in a sustained effort to hack the computer networks of Democratic organizations and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
What? You mean the hack wasn't Seth Rich or some 400 lb dude in his parents' basement?
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Post by goldenbucky on Jul 13, 2018 12:09:52 GMT -5
Seriously, though, this is starting to look like 21st century asymmetric warfare.
We're all going to have to become a lot smarter about this kind of stuff as a country if we want to retain our sovereignty.
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 13, 2018 12:42:10 GMT -5
Seriously, though, this is starting to look like 21st century asymmetric warfare. We're all going to have to become a lot smarter about this kind of stuff as a country if we want to retain our sovereignty. More details have been added to the story: "The 11-count indictment spells out in granular detail a carefully planned and executed attack on the information security of Democrats, implanting hundreds of malware files on Democrats’ computer systems, stealing information, and then laundering the pilfered material through fake personas and others to try to influence voters’ opinions. Rosenstein said the suspects worked to 'hack into computers, steal documents, and release those documents with the intent to interfere with the election.' The hackers also created the false online personas DC Leaks and Guccifer 2.0 to try to disguise the Russian origins of their work, Rosenstein said. He said the hackers interacted with some Americans in the course of their efforts, but noted that those people had not been charged with a crime." This is important for a number of reasons, among them this: "And with that, yet another President Trump conspiracy theory is thoroughly rebuked by the Russia investigation. Trump has regularly cast doubt upon the idea that the Democratic National Committee was hacked by the Russians — and that it was hacked at all. At one point he even reportedly dispatched a conspiracy theorist to meet with then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo." So much for this ludicrous statement, the gist of which has been repeated often by Mr. Puppet: “I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay? You don’t know who broke into DNC.” linkAs for your observation, GB: " On June 29, Facebook revealed to congressional investigators that it granted Mail.ru, a Russian internet company with close ties to the Kremlin, a special extension of the Facebook policy that allowed thousands of application developers access to massive amounts of user data. Mail.ru ran applications on Facebook for years before 2015, allowing it to delve into Facebook profiles and activity from millions of users around the world. This was standard Facebook policy. Thousands of companies that built applications on the Facebook platform had access to potentially millions of users’ information...The Russian company was founded by Yuri Milner, a businessman who was a major investor in Facebook. Mr. Milner sold his shares in Facebook in 2013 and left Mail.ru years earlier. The Paradise Papers, a collection of secret documents showing how the wealthy hide their money, showed that Mr. Milner had received hundreds of millions of dollars from the Russian government, which he invested in Facebook and Twitter. He has also invested in a development run by Jared Kushner." In other words, the Kremlin used a "businessman" as a front to buy stock in Facebook, which ultimately allowed it to access millions of user files through his company--which still is able to do so, despite the revelations about misuse of Facebook data! And the same guy (financed by the Russia government, again?) now is investing in Kushner's businesses. How cozy!
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 13, 2018 16:36:23 GMT -5
I was struck by the comment that Rosenstein said "the hackers interacted with some Americans in the course of their efforts." Now we know what he was talking about: "A federal indictment filed Friday accusing a dozen Russian military intelligence officers of conspiring to hack Democrats during the 2016 campaign spotlights communications between Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to President Trump, and an online persona allegedly operated by the Russians. Stone has previously acknowledged exchanging direct messages on Twitter in August and September 2016 with Guccifer 2.0, who claimed to be a Romanian hacker. Stone has said there is no proof the account was connected to the Russians. "But according to criminal charges filed Friday by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Guccifer 2.0 was actually operated by a group of Russian military intelligence officers based in Moscow. The Russians used Guccifer 2.0’s Twitter account to send multiple messages to “a person who was in regular contact with senior members” of Trump’s campaign, Mueller wrote in the indictment. The messages quoted in court papers match exchanges that Stone had with the account, according to an image he posted on his personal website. A person familiar with the investigation also confirmed that the Trump campaign associate referred to in the indictment is Stone." linkThey haven't indicted Stone on this...yet. But those indictments against people who never will be brought to a US courtroom weren't just some random acts. It's pretty clear that they are designed to set a predicate that someone on this end was working with individuals in Russian military intelligence to influence the election. And the only American identified is Stone. So, they've now filed charges that show Stone actually was interacting with the Russians while advising the Trump campaign. Those are dots connecting Point A to Point B, which is the groundwork for a charge of conspiracy. Which certainly is no coincidence given that: "In recent months, Mueller’s investigators have extensively questioned longtime Stone associates such as Sam Nunberg and Michael Caputo, who both served as Trump advisers. Stone’s social media director was spotted in June by reporters at a Washington courthouse where the grand jury that hears evidence from the special counsel investigation convenes."
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 13, 2018 21:35:58 GMT -5
OK, more details are out, and I've just been browsing through the indictment itself. Here's some of the most pertinent material: * On July 6, 2016, according to the indictment, WikiLeaks wrote, “if you have anything Hillary related we want it in the next tweo [sic] days prefable [sic] because the DNC [Democratic National Convention] is approaching and she will solidify bernie supporters behind her after,” referring to Clinton’s rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). WikiLeaks explained, “we think trump has only a 25% chance of winning against hillary . . . so conflict between bernie and hillary is interesting.” WikiLeaks released nearly 20,000 Democratic National Committee emails on the eve of the convention later that month, providing an embarrassing look at party operations and attitudes toward the Sanders campaign. * The indictment also describes an online conversation between the GRU, posing as Guccifer 2.0, and a “person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump.” People familiar with the case said that person is longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone. In August 2016, the hacker persona wrote: “please tell me if i can help u anyhow . . . it would be a great pleasure to me.” * The indictment also notes an interesting development on July 27, 2016 — the day then-candidate Trump gave a press conference declaring his hope that missing Clinton emails would be found and made public, saying: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.” The indictment says “on or about” that same day, “the conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton campaign.” www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/rod-rosenstein-expected-to-announce-new-indictment-by-mueller/2018/07/13/bc565582-86a9-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.76168d8f533aSo, there's the set of connections between Russia's GRU (as Grucifer--note the first three letters, as if saying the Americans are too stupid to get this, perhaps correctly), WikiLeaks, Stone, and even Trump himself. The smoke is everywhere; the gun must be pretty close at hand. Meanwhile, there are other interesting items in the indictment: * “On or about August 15, 2016, the conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for the U.S. Congress,” the indictment states. “The conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate’s opponent.” The indictment does not identify the candidate. Now, just who might that congressional candidate be, I wonder? Is it a sitting Member of the House or Senator? Someone on one of the Intelligence Committees? Oh, don't we want to know about that! And, eventually, I think we will. Finally, count 11 of the indictment describes how the GRU hacked into the computers of "state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and US companies that supplied software and other technology related to the administration of US elections...and stole information related to approximately 500,000 voters." The company they hacked provides software used to verify voter ID information; one state specifically mentioned was Florida. Does anyone seriously believe they did this without any intention of doing something with that information? Really, it's just impossible to read the stream of indictments without concluding that the election possibly was stolen altogether, which would be a catastrophe if proven because we have no constitutional fix for that. EDIT: In related news, "Top Maryland officials have asked the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to help ensure that the state’s election system is secure after learning that a Russian-backed firm is linked to the Maryland state Board of Elections. Gov. Larry Hogan (R), Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller Jr. (D-Calvert) and House Speaker Michael E. Busch (D-Anne Arundel) sent a joint letter on Friday to Homeland Secretary Kirstjen M. Nielsen asking for technical assistance to evaluate the network utilized by the state board...The software vendor handles statewide voter registration, candidacy, the election-management system, the online ballot-delivery system and the website for unofficial election-night results." link
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 13, 2018 22:00:00 GMT -5
Having been humiliated on national television by Rod Rosenstein and Peter Strzok, and just as Robert Mueller was delivering new indictments over Russian meddling on behalf of Trump in 2016, the so-called "Freedom Caucus" is preparing to take action: "House conservatives are preparing a new push to oust Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, according to three conservative Capitol Hill sources — putting the finishing touches on an impeachment filing...Conservative GOP lawmakers have been plotting to remove Rosenstein for weeks." linkThat's right, these idiots are trying to use the impeachment process to do what Trump hasn't been able to do. Removing Rosenstein would allow Trump to appoint one of his loyalist lackeys as Muller's boss, and effectively close down the investigation. It isn't going to work but it's telling that one of the leaders is Jim Jordan, who is under fire over allegations that as an administrator at Ohio State he helped cover up sexual assaults by athletes. You'd think a guy already suspected of one cover-up wouldn't want to find himself at the center of a much bigger one, but then it's Jim Jordan, not Albert Einstein we're talking about.
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Post by goldenbucky on Jul 13, 2018 22:20:52 GMT -5
I know I shouldn't be surprised but the lack of urgency and response from congress and the executive on this matter is still astonishing if you pause to think about it.
The instruments and functioning of our democracy have been attacked by the Russian military. Citizens have provided aid and comfort in that effort.
As Rosenstein said, this isn't about politics.
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Post by buckybasser on Jul 14, 2018 1:55:49 GMT -5
There are so many blatant errors in the original post it is hard to know where to begin...
There are no "right-wingers" in all of government, because if there were, most of the federal government would not exist - as should be the case under the Constitution.The House Freedom Caucus represents the moderate mainstream (or perhaps even slightly to the left) of American thought. My dudes find them to be liberals.Rosenstein should be impeached because he has not produced the documents necessary to allow the House to conduct its Constitutional oversight role.
It is getting into loony land with these constant attacks. Trump derangement syndrome.
Let this man at least try to eliminate the 8 years of destruction done by Chairman Obama & his radical extremist regime that corrupted federal agencies.
The IRS & FBI turned into political weapons of the left - let alone all the other leftist agencies - sheesh.
About time to impeach some leftists and begin to put as many as possible behind bars.
Hopefully get to their pensions so they have to borrow our tax dollars from corrupt Queen Lois Lerner at her beachfront retirement estate. >O
[Administrator's note: Please do not feed the insanity posted above. Thank you in advance.]
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Post by Old Badger on Jul 14, 2018 9:56:41 GMT -5
I know I shouldn't be surprised but the lack of urgency and response from congress and the executive on this matter is still astonishing if you pause to think about it. The instruments and functioning of our democracy have been attacked by the Russian military. Citizens have provided aid and comfort in that effort. As Rosenstein said, this isn't about politics. Alas, GB, politics has everything to do with it. For years political scientists and others have been tracking the shift of the Republican Party from a normal, center-right coalition to a radical reactionary one. Support for democratic norms actually has declined among rank-and-file GOP voters, and it was only a matter of time before this affected the party's candidates and office-holders. I have noted many times that the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts of the 1960s were bipartisan efforts; there's a wonderful audio tape of LBJ and Senate GOP Leader Everett Dirksen discussing strategy for passing the CRA among the WH tapes of the era, for example. But by deciding to exploit the fissure this brought between Southern and Northern Democrats beginning with Nixon's 1968 campaign, the GOP set itself on a course that moved progressively (regressively?) through Spiro Agnew, Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin (what was John McCain thinking!), and the Tea Party, finally to Trump. Along the way they've become a collection of overlapping groups that largely reject democracy and, frankly, decency: racists, gun nuts, Christian Talibans, what Obama called “bitter [men who] cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them.” Or, as Hillary more succinctly put it, "deplorables". Sure, this is a caricature of the typical Republican voter, but as we've seen in recent elections these are the voters who make the difference by dominating GOP primaries. The old center-right GOP has disappeared almost completely, even in liberal states, such as New York and California, where it has a chance to win (see Maryland's Governor Hogan for a rare counter-example). By contrast, the Democrats continue to be dominated by their center-left majority, with the usual (mostly unsuccessful) challenges from the further-left wing. This is reflected in studies that show GOP voters are far more ideological than Dem voters, who still form themselves mostly around specific, often conflicting, issues that do not necessarily wind up with a coherent single ideology--basically, a continuation of the pattern we've seen since the New Deal 80 years ago.
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